Densetzu 23 Posted April 6, 2022 With each week there is more and more kinah on the server, this makes items insanely expensive ( for exaple plume +5 which on retail was worth 600-700kk, here its 3kkk ). Gearing up new character fast is possible thanks to big amout of kinah sellers. Many players focus only on farming big amouts and then sell them, not to mention account selling. For new player who doesn't want to invest into game, gearing up takes too long. Does support have any thoughts about this problem? is it normal that starting new game from 0 is on lost position? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAlmighty 1,099 Posted April 6, 2022 Hello, You can always join farming, sell items, craft consumables. I am also reminding that selling and buying game currency (kinah) and accounts is prohibited by the server rules and will lead to the punishments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raidon 108 Posted April 6, 2022 +5 Plume isn't something you get during your 1st week on the server. And don't compare this server to retail please. Retail had tempering solution in the shop which made them cheaper. Here its a rare occurrence to find one outside of events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Densetzu 23 Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, TheAlmighty said: Hello, You can always join farming, sell items, craft consumables. I am also reminding that selling and buying game currency (kinah) and accounts is prohibited by the server rules and will lead to the punishments. first of all, on farming spots are people who have characters on both races and they are farming there all day long. I can guess some of them are doing it with one aim - selling profits for real money. for the second point, are you aware how many kinah sellers have their offers on facebooks/discord groups? saying its prohibited isn't enough.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAlmighty 1,099 Posted April 7, 2022 21 hours ago, Densetzu said: first of all, on farming spots are people who have characters on both races and they are farming there all day long. I can guess some of them are doing it with one aim - selling profits for real money. for the second point, are you aware how many kinah sellers have their offers on facebooks/discord groups? saying its prohibited isn't enough.... Some kinah traders were caught and banned. It is not like we can see their private conversations in every social media and ban for kinah trade. If you have proofs of someone violating the server rules, you can report them to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Densetzu 23 Posted April 7, 2022 6 hours ago, TheAlmighty said: Some kinah traders were caught and banned. It is not like we can see their private conversations in every social media and ban for kinah trade. If you have proofs of someone violating the server rules, you can report them to us. maybe I start running this server for you? There is problem with kinah trade and you are ignoring it. If you can't punish enough sellers to disencourage them, maybe there is another solution? Maybe more accurate events, which cannot be abused by players with 100 alts ( yes I'm talking about snowflakes ). Maybe make doing instances and playing game itself more profitable? Watching from behind and just blinking wont fix anything. You have advantage over retail you know which past decisions made players happy and which made players quit the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAlmighty 1,099 Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Densetzu said: maybe I start running this server for you? There is problem with kinah trade and you are ignoring it. If you can't punish enough sellers to disencourage them, maybe there is another solution? Maybe more accurate events, which cannot be abused by players with 100 alts ( yes I'm talking about snowflakes ). Maybe make doing instances and playing game itself more profitable? Watching from behind and just blinking wont fix anything. You have advantage over retail you know which past decisions made players happy and which made players quit the game. You were talking about players making kinah every day. Now there's no snowflake event. Many kinah traders have already been banned and more will be in the future. I have already mentioned above that it is not like we get to read personal messages of the users. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passthesauce 41 Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) while you on this trading talk why you guys allow account sharing but not buying? Edited April 8, 2022 by passthesauce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christof 72 Posted April 9, 2022 On 08/04/2022 at 4:23 AM, passthesauce said: while you on this trading talk why you guys allow account sharing but not buying? You can share your account with anyone but we are not responsible for the actions in it, and buying an account or selling ain't allowed in your project. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Densetzu 23 Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Christof said: You can share your account with anyone but we are not responsible for the actions in it, and buying an account or selling ain't allowed in your project. again, "it's not allowed" but you execute banning trading too poorly. Most of inactive accounts are listed on trade sites/discords. But I guess you cannot check which accounct is listed even if it has full gear in description with glory number. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christof 72 Posted April 10, 2022 Of course, we ban them we just need enough proof to do it the problem is that we can't just ban a random account because someone said that's on a site or discord. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passthesauce 41 Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) On 09/04/2022 at 6:23 PM, Christof said: You can share your account with anyone but we are not responsible for the actions in it, and buying an account or selling ain't allowed in your project. how do you tell if someone really sharing account and never paid for it? Edited April 11, 2022 by passthesauce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christof 72 Posted April 14, 2022 On 11/04/2022 at 7:25 PM, passthesauce said: how do you tell if someone really sharing account and never paid for it? There's nothing wrong in sharing your account with your friends, but if someday there's something missing or even the account password has been changed we do not interfere with the recovery that's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passthesauce 41 Posted April 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Christof said: There's nothing wrong in sharing your account with your friends, but if someday there's something missing or even the account password has been changed we do not interfere with the recovery that's all. soo im free to buy account and if im ever ask ill just say im sharing it with friend you guys really that blind you cant see how allowing people to share makes the no buying rule pointless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passthesauce 41 Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) still waiting for the dumb answer you gonna give Edited April 18, 2022 by passthesauce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Densetzu 23 Posted April 20, 2022 On 18.04.2022 at 6:38 PM, passthesauce said: still waiting for the dumb answer you gonna give They don't care about health of the server....... they will wake up when donators get bored and leave. Players are allowed to exchange geared account and making new one is getting harder and harder. this server is standing in one place for 2.5 year and many aspects are already abused to its limits. No way to use kinah in end game leads to selling currency and inflation. Situation changes with each day. Players who starded playing year ago had it easier than players who start now. And administration is not doing any adjustment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passthesauce 41 Posted April 20, 2022 soo true as you can see nothing will get fix cause they dodge questions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites