Yisha 13 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Hello guys, we would link to introduce our new “PvE Awakened” project, where you can participate against other players in DPS Rankings to make PvE more fun and competitive. We use Aion Rainmeter (ARM) files to evaluate Logs from KATA/IS and calculate the players “real DPS”, means we take the overall DMG and divide it by the seconds you need to Kill Hyperion. Based on this information, we create Top 10 class Based Ranking system. Later we will also set up a Top 20 Ranking for each class specific, but we have not collected enough files for that. For now (Nov. 1st 2022) the Ranking looks like this: We will keep you updated on the forum once per Week and have a Live Ranking in our Discord, where you can permanently check, if there are any changes. If you would like to join this project, we would be glad, if you check out our Discord Server, pick your main class and send us your future KATA/IS files. 😁 https://discord.gg/dsHSKF49 For the exact way how to upload files you can check the “#general Information” and the “#how to start” channel on the Discord Server. We hope to make PvE great “again” 😉 Edited November 2, 2022 by Yisha 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted November 3, 2022 Update 11-02-2022 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted November 8, 2022 Update 2022-11-08 New Top DPS for Temp / Glad / Ranger / Sorc / SM / AT To join the ranking and be updated for future files feel free to join our Discord: https://discord.gg/dsHSKF49 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted November 9, 2022 fixed Discord Link: https://discord.gg/ceqN9M4e Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vilso Asmo 0 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) there is a problems with real DPS, as listed: it discriminates chanters , spiritmasters and bards (even gladiators) and all other classes that contribute to raid DPS by applying debuffs. The thing you need to count is personal DPS /raid DPS. Only with that combo info you could create pve tier list. Or you could create separate tier list for utility of classes, weight them and then do geometric mean including personal DPS AND utility You also need to create high/low DPS to accomodate skil cap of particular player and then evaluate class on average perfomance. You need several hundreds entries to each class to reliably measure and compare classes. top 10 in not good indicator of class prowess. It only promotes selfish bevaviours and endangers party to wipe and make clerics life harder How you objectively measure DPS between classes when sorceres have burst windows and when boss wont die exacly after one, sorc will be lower on chart? Same problem with SM's DoT, if boss dies just after applying new round of DoT's Dps will be lost How you would rate a nicely used panalopy of protection/bodyguard/ Elemental Screen/ and other DMG party wide/ target reduction skills on the DPS class who would die in next second if not saved?. All would be lost DPS in revive time window IMO should be taken away from personal DPS and put into another collumn to credit support classes. AION 4.6 not rly dont have tank busters/DPS busters but still Diffrent party compositions have diffrent levels of synergy between classes Synergy beween players (coordination with using debuffs and long CD dps skills) have impact on final DPS Putting support and hybrid classes next to sorces and assasins (pure DPS) and calling it DPS class tier list is not fair Anyway good work putting together that sheet anyway Edited November 9, 2022 by Vilso Asmo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) hello, since this is a DPS Ranking and as we all know, DPS means Damage per Second, thats why i dont see any reason of splitting up classes in hybrid speccs or seperate classes who use buffs etc. Ofc the statistic is more interesting for DPS specs compared to Supporters, but its the only useful factor you can evaluate. In the discord link, I posted above you can also see a top 20 ranking for each class, so its not just the infos you get here in the forum. Edited November 9, 2022 by Yisha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted November 15, 2022 Update 2022-11-15 New Top DPS for Glad / Assassin / Ranger / Chant / Sorc / SM / AT To join the ranking and be updated for future files feel free to join our Discord: https://discord.gg/ceqN9M4e Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Update 2022-11-23 New Top DPS for: Assassin / Ranger / Sorc / SM / Gunner To join the ranking and be updated for future files feel free to join our Discord: https://discord.com/invite/pnREjWmsQ4 Edited November 23, 2022 by Yisha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted August 13 (edited) Hi guys, we would like give you an update to our PvE - Ranking Project. Over the last 1,5 years we evaluated more than 1.000 runs on Euro Aion and can show you an updated version of the 3 Main PvE Instances below. KATA/IS: (DPS is calculated as follows: first to last hit of Hyperion) RST/IO: (DPS is calculated as follows: first to last hit of Test Weapon Dynatoum ; Mines do not count as DPS) DR/Runa NM: (DPS is calculated as follows: first to last hit of Grendal) We also added a seaonal ranking to each instance with a seperated monthy reset to all instances. The overall ranking remains in place. We would be glad, if we could motivate some more people to do PvE more passionate and try to climb the ranking list. As mensioned above we use Aion Rainmeter (ARM) files to evaluate Logs from the listed instances and calculate the players “real DPS”, means we take the overall DMG and divide it by the seconds you need to kill the bosses. Based on this information, we create Top class based Ranking systems. We will try to deliver you a monthly update on the Forum from now on, also we have a Live Ranking in our Discord and Website, where you can permanently check, if there are any changes. If you would like to join this project, we would be glad, if you check out our Discord Server, pick your main class and send us your files! Link to our Discord: https://discord.gg/pnREjWmsQ4 For the exact way how to upload files you can check the “#general Information” and the “#how to start” channel on the Discord Server. We hope to make PvE great “again” 😉 Edited August 13 by Yisha 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windy 40 Posted August 13 Wow, nice PVE Heroes, how about you learn to PVP instead? oO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tinaturnma 16 Posted August 13 I think this is something really great for people to compete against each other and enjoy the game the way they like to play it. But i guess some people are thinking wise so in their own bubble that they just give a nice comment like our good friend Windy here oO 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoasterOfGreatDamage 6 Posted August 13 2 hours ago, Windy said: Wow, nice PVE Heroes, how about you learn to PVP instead? oO Wow, that is not very nice of you! Just like there are people who enjoy PvP as their main course of the game, there are also people that enjoy PvE as their main course. Whereas the game clearly is trying to focus on the PvP there are people trying to put effort in the other side of the game to make that competitive as well. Don't forget PvE is what gets the economy going ingame. But sure keep trying to denigrate the PvE players. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Endymionn 6 Posted August 13 2 hours ago, Windy said: Wow, nice PVE Heroes, how about you learn to PVP instead? oO What if we enjoy both PvE and PvP ? Can we just enjoy the game as a whole ? Let people do what they want, and what they enjoy when they are logged in. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yisha 13 Posted October 22 Update 22.10.2024 KATA/IS: (DPS is calculated as follows: first to last hit of Hyperion) RST/IO: (DPS is calculated as follows: first to last hit of Test Weapon Dynatoum ; Mines do not count as DPS) DR/Runa NM: (DPS is calculated as follows: first to last hit of Grendal) We also added a seaonal ranking to each instance with a seperated monthy reset to all instances. The overall ranking remains in place. We would be glad, if we could motivate some more people to do PvE more passionate and try to climb the ranking list. As mensioned above we use Aion Rainmeter (ARM) files to evaluate Logs from the listed instances and calculate the players “real DPS”, means we take the overall DMG and divide it by the seconds you need to kill the bosses. Based on this information, we create Top class based Ranking systems. We will try to deliver you a monthly update on the Forum from now on, also we have a Live Ranking in our Discord and Website, where you can permanently check, if there are any changes. If you would like to join this project, we would be glad, if you check out our Discord Server, pick your main class and send us your files! Link to our Discord: https://discord.gg/pnREjWmsQ4 For the exact way how to upload files you can check the “#general Information” and the “#how to start” channel on the Discord Server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites